VMs: Re: Re: Inks and retouching

["Jeff" <jeff@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Rene I hope you didn't get the impression that I included you in that. It
would not be worth dredging over old ground. I was simply stating my view.
It is not only the pictures that have caused this effect, but also various
theories. I tend to look from time to time at what people have said about
possible solutions. I have followed up on some of them to see how well they
fare. I don't know if I can say that for most contributors. It is only by
seeing where people are coming from and following in their footsteps that
you can determine which way to jump.

I won't embarrass any of those whose methods I have investigated. I will
simply say that I found merit in all of them and not only  because of the
leaps of imagination that they showed. They could ALL be the answer. The
only way to find out would be to study them seriously. That will never
happen. It is usually the case that "you thought of it so you are on your
own with it. Come back when you have something we can disprove." Or that is
the way it appears from my perspective. Several people I have encouraged in
private because I thought that what they were doing moved the whole thing
on. It gave a better understanding through a new perspective.

I have been doing a little historical research and what do you know, the
scientific revolution was started by people who collaborated on a large
scale. They shared information and drove things forward. Lest we forget
where we came from to be in this position let's not throw out the baby with
the bathwater.

Jeff

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rene Zandbergen" <r_zandbergen@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <vms-list@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: 10 August 2004 07:52
Subject: VMs: Re: Inks and retouching


> Hello Jeff,
>
> --- Jeff <jeff@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > There is more to the pictures than you think.
> > Certain points of view have been deliberately
> > overlooked and sidelined on this list.
>
> In Dutch there is a saying: you say 'A', you
> got to say 'B' as well. The meaning of this
> proverb is that if you start speaking, you have
> to finish or put up as well.
>
> If you claim that certain points of view related
> to the pictures have been deliberately overlooked
> or sidelined, you should tell us which ones.
> It seems extremely unlikely since this list has
> always consisted of hundreds of people free to
> speak their minds. No way to 'control' that.
>
> Cheers, Rene
>
>
>
>
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