Re: VMs: Ways to generate voynichese-like text

["Marianna Ridderstad" <marianna.ridderstad@xxxxxxxxx>]

Hello Philip,

There are four tables, because there are 4 gallows. Each gallows denotes the
table until a following gallows replaces it. Then, in each of the four
tables one just changes the rows with
the aid of 4O, O and 8; if there are neither, one just reads the first
ow  - a caveat is that if one has chosen e.g. table F and has used row 8 but
then wants to use the first row of F table again, one has to repeat the
letter F, since it is a marker of a new sequence and "resets" the coding.
This problem actually could be avoided if we assume that the "ligature
forms" of letters (G for A, R for I and so on)  would be end forms of a
sequence... This way we would not have to repeat the gallows every time we
want to return to line 1 in a table.
I'll have to think about this; I quess I also should add more comments on my
notes page since people have not understood my tables...

Best regards,
Marianna


----- Original Message -----
From: "Philip Neal" <philipneal_vms@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <vms-list@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 12:38 PM
Subject: RE: VMs: Ways to generate voynichese-like text


>
>
>
> >From: "Marianna Ridderstad" <marianna.ridderstad@xxxxxxxxx>
>
> >I came up with a way to create some voynichese-like text; I put my
thoughts
> >on a web page, since the description is quite long:
> >
> >http://www.astro.helsinki.fi/~marianna/notes2.txt
>
> Interesting. I have often said that the best way to analyse the internal
> structure
> of the words is to assume that characters get deleted from a fixed
> sequence such as EVA qolkshedary:
>
> qolkshedary --> qo k  ed  y --> qokedy
> qolkshedary -->  ol  she ar  --> olshear
>
> What I don't see is how the idea about four tables is supposed to fit
> in with this. I see in general how it works but I can't reproduce the
> proposed encipherment of etiam.
>
> Why four tables and not some other number?
>
> Before the last step in which the ciphertext is arbitrarily divided into
> cipher words, are there only three possible initials for the sequences
> enciphering an individual plaintext character?
>
> In terms of the hidden gap analysis of Voynich word structure, how
> do you explain the many cases where there are three or more
> hidden gaps?
>
> Assuming that the manuscript is a genuine cipher, this is the kind of
> cipher I would expect it to be, but I think there are many features
> of Voynichese which this particular proposal does not cover.
>
> Philip Neal
>
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