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Re: VMs: voynich dice game ... sunday thoughts
*YES* you are 1/2 way there :-)
1/2 your quest is _char_ to symbol mapping:, THE OTHER HALF, is
mirrored
of its (vms) _char_..... (SAME THINKING/same thing), the 'gallows'
create the nextKEY AND Tell WHEN to reverse ones MiRrOreD _char_
_flip_ your KEY on gallows!
best to you & yours there,
-=se=-
steve (SIMPLIER than you think) ekwall :-)
Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2004 16:22:02 +0200
From: Marzio De Biasi <voynich@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Subject: Re: VMs: voynich dice game ... sunday thoughts
OUCH ... my "lack of knowledge on the REAL VM" stabbed me in the back!
The VM I used for testing is an EVA transcription (text16e6.evt - Friedman
+ FSG.NEW transcription) and I was absolutely convinced of a 1:1 char to
symbol mapping.
Is there an alphabet where this assumption is true (i.e. every symbol is
mapped to a different char)?
Where can I found such transcription?
I'll repeat the tests on it as soon as I got it!
The statistics are based on the whole manuscript with labels discarded (I
took into account only the paragraphs).
Thank you,
Marzio
At 15.04 12/09/04, you wrote:
>Hello Marzio,
>
>you've shown some interesting results. The
>interpretation is as always difficult. On
>your latest E-mail:
>
>--- Marzio De Biasi <voynich@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > In a previous post I noticed how the word length
> > distribution of VM
> > MATCHES (not only is similar) the distribution
> > obtained with 2 dice
> > assuming that 3 of the numbers in (3,5,9) have a
> > "special meaning" (like
> > switch to another cardan grill, change encryption
> > schema, ecc.).
> >
> > So, one can assume that the spaces in VM are totally
> > random and dice driven
>
>This really is not correct. The word length
>distribution depends on two main questions:
>- which transcription alphabet is used? Depending
> on the choice, the distribution will look
> different. If it was Eva, it will almost
> certainly be wrong. But you can define your
> own quite easily and repeat the statistics.
>- were the statistics based on all the words in
> the Voynich MS (i.e. the corpus), or on all the
> differnt words (i.e. the vocabulary). Since the
> most frequent words are relatively short, the
> two distributions will not be the same
>
>_If_ dice were involved in the creation of the
>VMs text, one would have to take into account the
>above questions in order to explain _how_.
>
>Keep up the good work,
> cheers, Rene
>
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