Yes, this is correct and constitutes the current scholar trend:
On this page of the main defendor of this thesis, you will
be in a position, however, to note that
Lynn Thorndike for instance had different views, it seems.
About Lull and VMS there is otherwise the quite recent essay by
Francisco A. Violat Bordonau:
It s in PDF and in Spanish (nobody's perfect, but although it was already
mentionned in the list, it was on a different page, if I correctly remember,
and I think that if you can read it, it s quite relevant after reading your
questions about Lull s work possible use in our case). Just a thought,
of course.
Regards,
Jean
Eric <mynumberis2000@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Also, there is some mention of alchemy re: Lull. FWIW,
the little I have read states that essentially all
alchemical work attributed to Lull is not by him.
Thanks,
Eric
--- jean-yves artero wrote:
> Hi Eric,
>
> About lull, this page is too of VMS interest
> (thanks, Jan).
>
> Jean
>
> http://hurontaria.baf.cz/VM/a17.htm
>
> jean-yves artero wrote:Date:
> Sat, 23 Oct 2004 20:00:03 +0200 (CEST)
> De: jean-yves artero
> Objet: Re: VMs: evmt, database, gb, lull, etc.
> À: vms-list@xxxxxxxxxxx
>
> Hi, Eric and Pam,
>
> This is probably neither OT on topic nor OT off
> topic, but I would say in the margins of it, and
> anyway I could not resist:
>
>
http://www.maxmon.com/1274ad.htm
>
> http://www.colorsystem.com/projekte/engl/61arse.htm
>
> Leibniz is quoted in both sites, I think, and GB in
> one of them. Otherwise I am interested in the fact
> that our beloved AT is present too. And moreover
> about alchemy, of course. Smile.
>
> I think that Yates is a good analyst of lullian
> contribution to logic. I am not an informatician,
> but I have the impression that this contribution is
> not far away from some modern attempts to
> rationalize and organize thought. I am possibly
> quite wrong about this.
>
> RL is an interesting case for VMS I think, but I
> don't remember of any significant effort to link him
> with the manuscript studied. I read a recent book in
> Spanish which argues about the RL authorship of VMS
> but found nothing really consistent in it. However
> my Spanish is poor:>
>
http://www.alibris.com/search/search.cfm?qwork=7797901&wauth=Perez%2C%20Mario&ptit=El%20Manuscrito%20Voynich&pauth=Perez%2DRuiz%2C%20Mario%20M%2E&pisbn=8475562167&pqty=1&pqtynew=0&pbest=24%2E94&matches=1&qsort=r
>
>
> It s mentionned in Wikipedia (smile again), but not
> in Kennedy and Churchill's bibliography.
>
> Yours,
>
> Jean
>
> Pamela Richards wrote:
> Hi, Eric
>
> Watch those insidious modern "interpretations"!
> Smile.
>
> "If controversies were to arise, there would be no
> more need of disputation between two philosophers
> than
> between two accountants. For it would suffice to
> take
> their pencils in their hands, and say to each other:
> Let us calculate."
>
> Gottfried Von Leibniz
>
> I like this guy's thinking.
>
!
>
Warmly,
>
> Pam
>
> --- Eric wrote:
>
> > All:
> >
> > Where can I find the "standard" programs mentioned
> > so
> > often in the archives (bitrans, monkey, etc.)? All
> I
> > keep finding are dead links to Landini's old
> page...
> >
> > Also, before I embark on building a database of
> the
> > transcription(s) (I have been just parsing from
> text
> > files using Icon for now) with page tables and
> > letter
> > tables and "word" tables etc., this task has been
> > done
> > before by members. Does anyone have a database
> they
> > would like to share? If not, I'll go build one and
> > share it (standard non-guarantees regarding
> > timelines
> > with freeware apply), but wanted to check first.
> >
> > Finally, nice to see Giordano
mentioned again.
> I've
> > finished "The Art of Memory" and started on
> > "Giordano
> > Bruno and the Hermetic Tradition". The archives
> have
> > sparse mention of him (unless my searches are
> > wrong).
> > Pardom me Pam (smile), but I need to read the
> modern
> > mind summary first before I dive into the original
> > text - at least I'm using a respectable source.
> It's
> > just too damn hard for me to wrap my brain around
> > the
> > medieval/renaissance mindset cold turkey.
> >
> > Speaking of which... blessed Ramon Lull is another
> > interesting (and possibly relevant) figure. I've
> > read
> > what there is in Yates and gathered some on the
> Web,
> > but he is impenetrable to me - I understand only
> in
> > the most cursory sense his Art. Any leads on a
> good!
>
> introduction to Lull's Art (that is kind to the
> > modern
> > Western scientific mind - so that excludes
> > lullianarts.net :)? Also, I have found little
> > mention
> > of him in the archives. All very dead ends I
> guess?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Eric
> >
> >
> >
> >
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