On Thu, 4 Nov 2004, Ger wrote:
A search on the net produces seemingly conflicting informtion. see eg:
http://www.dacia.org/carpatho-danubian-space.html
http://www.dr-savescu.com/history/sumer-e.html
I get from it that it could be the lost writing of the Dacians.
The author of the book which claims to have been decyphered the
writing believes the written was vulgar-latin and the script Dacian.
Everything happens in a mythical country reigned by someone called Vlad,
the only cities of this country are Ineul, Aradul, Olbia si Dridu,
also Nistrul, Tisa, and then Raraul. The most frequent are Raraul,
Ineul and Dridu. There are no rules for transliteration just a vulgar
latin-romanian dictionary.Some examples of translation:
Ater iris imiuoi nectani = threatening rainbow thrust to kill
Er sibid irarau rar rad tisa = go to Rarau but mostly "rade" to Tisa
ikter eua = yellow people yell
liviso ala iucet iustis = the cavalry beats justly the yellow ones.
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This a partial translation of the article written by Dan Ungureanu. I
don't have yet any personal opinion, I need to listen also to the
other side (read the book).
> Since the contents seems to be bible texts, or related stories, and the
language most likely exists or existed, decoding or translating could be
"easier" than the VMs.
Of help might be that text and names in pictures can (often) be found in
the
text: see eg page 133. Contrary to the VMs where a connection between
labels
in diagrams and text AFAIK is still at best speculative.
Some more information regarding the Codex Rohnonczi can be found on the
Forum here:
http://www.dr-savescu.com/codex/study/forum/forum.html
Especially the (last) link to Dumitru Gr^u looks interesting. However
Just a couple of excerpts:
... My opinion is that this is written in mirror(from right to left) with
left hand... similar with the Leonardo Da Vinci style...
the mini format suggests that this was a kind of personal notebook or
journal which was carried all the time by the author... which may have
been a monk...and this CODEX is a proof of a secret mission, experiences,
dreams(revelations) or something which was in contradiction with
the existing canons and it may have been jeopardized his life.
... letters/symbols are similar with the ones from Greek or Cyrillic
scripts..
... some other signs which looks almost identically with Cyrillic and
Greek ones:
io, io, i short, psi.
....
(nr. the author of the article believes this is written in the "Dacian
script" )
Roumanian is not my best language, and babelfish hasn't got it either.
Can
someone explain what is said there? Don't forget to click the links on
top:
Intro in filele comentate: 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9
The content is a description of the picture, for example
for 3(167): Someone with wings(a man, an angel, a god) prays to the sun
(which is humanized) for a sick or a dead man
for 4(170):
One of the most mysterious miniatures is found right on this page.
A man ( he seems to be the hero of the story/document)(judging after his
hat) waits with a cup (shaped as a heart) in front of a Moldavian
Monastery. As the the door of the Orthodox Monsteries are oriented to
the sunset, we can judge the direction of the actions (?) of this man
(which sometimes is Angel) and the way the document must be read,
correctly. This miniature also suggest that the date when CR was written
is the same as the date suggested by the paper on which was written
(dating the watermark) ie years 1530-40, probably in the same period of
time as the Petru Rares reign(former king of Moldavia) and not on the
Vlad reign.
I too support the idea of starting a separate Rohnonczi list since there
doesn't seem to be one (even the Roumanian Forum seems dead to me), and
restricting messages on Rohnonczi here when related to Voynichese.
Agree.
Regards,
Florin
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