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Re: VMs: Prague and Italy (long)
On 25 Jul 2005, at 01:28, J HALEY wrote:
The architect Barozzi never left Italy AFAICT. What
I really need to find out is a connection between the Barozzi's
and the Sternberg's in Bohemia.
What about Francesco Barozzi?
He was a mathematician and a translator, and also the son of Jacopo/
Giacomo Barozzi (I think this is the architect but I'm not sure).
Francesco was born in Crete in 1537, and died in Venice in 1604, as
you can see here:
And then see this: http://galileo.rice.edu/Catalog/NewFiles/
Where you can find interesting things such as:
Barozzi was tried by the Inquisition (charge unknown) and found
guilty about 1583.
In 1587 there was another charge, this time of apostacy and heresy,
from the sentence apparently charges of engaging in occult magical
Primary: Mathematics, Astronomy
Subordinate: Occult Philosophy
Translated Proclus', Hero's, and Achimedean writings on geometry.
He also published Cosmographia, 1585.
Barozzi apparently inherited a very extensive estate in Crete, and
one cannot avoid the conclusion that he was reared in wealthy
And from who did he inherit this?
Of course, from yet another Jacopo/Giacomo Barozzi, who owned the
whole Thera in 1200:
So in 1500 Francesco owned the villages of Agios Konstantinos and
Roustikas on Crete:
He also corresponded with:
Ulisse Aldrovandi, a naturalist
Paolo Sarpi, a scientist and historian
Christopher Clavius, the famous mathematician and astronomer
And then you have to see this other link:
Apparently Francesco Barozzi's nephew was called... Giacomo!!!
And they both collected manuscripts, of course, which were brought to
England in 1628 by Henry Featherstone and are now in Oxford:
By the way this collection also includes a strange manuscript in
Javanese, which was donated by Andrew James (don't know who he is)
and added by William Herbert, Chancellor of the University at the
time (but why is it in this collection if it isn't linked to Barozzi?).
Please note this:
- the VMS was in the hands of Rudolf and then Jacobus Horcicky before
1619, so it probably couldn't have been in this collection.
- Baresch should have owned the MS sometimes between 1619-1662, so he
couldn't have been Francesco/Giacomo Barozzi.
- I still don't know why the collection of manuscripts was sold and
brought to Oxford.
- the Barozzi were a very rich family at the time.
- there is no other "famous" Barozzi I'm aware of.
Conclusion: It would be an interesting hypotheses, but I don't think
M. Georgius Barschius is an unknown "Giorgio" Barozzi. Why should
have he gone to Bohemia if he had properties in Venice and Crete? And
since Barschius is a "latinization", I'd like to point out that
Barozzi could be more easily latinized as "Barocius" instead, while
"Barschius" suggests the presence of a "sch" like in Baresch. He
should have gone to Bohemia, changed his name to something like
"Baresch", thus losing the name of his rich and important family,
then gone to Rome (probably under his new name), then returned to
Bohemia again, and after all these travels, and with such well-known
ancestors, be mentioned exclusively on his and Marci's letters to
Kircher. Yes, it could still be a Barozzi, but it would be a bit too
To Jean-Yves, Jeff and others: please keep researching this, I still
hope this whole thing about Barschius can be cleared once and for all.
Daniel (oh that Javanese MS, if only I could see it!)
P.S. This was my first message :-)
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