Tr: Re: VMs: Hi from another newbie

[jean-yves artero <jyartero@xxxxxxxx>]

Further with Johannes Sambucus AKA 

-ZÃmbosky JÃnos 

AUTHOR Zámbosky, János (1531 - 1584)
TITLE Emblemata, et aliquot nummi antiqui operi
URL
http://nebula.uv.es/ipac4/ipac_bin2/Pipacdle?doc_number=1132037&Language=E&SESSID=00897&PathINI=/gateways/ipac4/ipac_version_html/&;
SITE Universitat de València Biblioteca Digital
SUBJECT Emblems, numismatics
NOTES Dpr of the 1566 Antwerp edition

-Zsámboky, János

AUTHOR Zsámboky, János (1531-1584)
TITLE Emblemata cum aliquot nummis antiqui operis
Joannis Sambuci
URL
http://gallica.bnf.fr/scripts/ConsultationTout.exe?O=n081455
SITE Gallica - Bibliothèque nationale de France
SUBJECT Iconography
NOTES Dpr of the 1564 Anvers edition; downloadable pdf
and tiff formats

AUTHOR Zsámboky, János (1531-1584)
TITLE Epistula (1582)
URL
http://publications.uu.se/waller/object.xsql?DBID=25108
SITE Uppsala University Library
SUBJECT Philology
NOTES Written to Justus Lipsius; dpr of Waller
Manuscript Collection ms. hu-00033

AUTHOR Zsámboky, János (1531-1584)
TITLE Epistula (1576
URL
http://publications.uu.se/waller/object.xsql?DBID=25107
SITE Uppsala University Library
SUBJECT Philology
NOTES Written to Joachim Camerarius the Younger; dpr
of Waller Manuscript Collection ms. hu-00029

SUBJECT Zsámboky, János (1531-1584)
TITLE Half-length portrait, engraving with Latin
verses and biographical notes (1582)
URL
http://publications.uu.se/waller/object.xsql?DBID=25109
SITE Uppsala University Library
SUBJECT Biography, poetry
NOTES Written to Justus Lipsius; dpr of Waller
Manuscript Collection ms. hu-00034

There are some interesting informations about his
relations in the Emblemata and Epistula, but alas
no Bar...

Jean

PS I could not check the first reference. Sorry for
that.

--- jean-yves artero <jyartero@xxxxxxxx> a écrit :

> Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 18:58:20 +0200 (CEST)
> De: jean-yves artero <jyartero@xxxxxxxx>
> Objet: Re: VMs: Hi from another newbie
> À: vms-list@xxxxxxxxxxx
> 
> Hi 
> 
>
http://alfama.sim.ucm.es/dioscorides/consulta_libro.asp?ref=X531772070
> 
> AUTHOR Sambucus, Johannes
> TITLE Icones veterum aliquot, ac recentium
> medicorum,
> philosophorumque, elogiolis suis editae
> URL
>
http://alfama.sim.ucm.es/dioscorides/consulta_libro.asp?ref=X531772070
> SITE Biblioteca Universidad Complutense
> SUBJECT Iconography
> NOTES Dpr of the 1574 Antwerp edition
> 
> In these "icones" are included a portrait of
> Mattioli
> and of Sambucus as well.
> 
> Jean
> 
> --- Dana Scott <dscott520@xxxxxxx> a écrit :
> 
> > Rene,
> > 
> > Here are a few references to the individuals you
> > mentioned below.
> > 
> > Johannes Sambucus:
> >
>
http://www.pytheas.hu/ereszletes14.htm<http://www.pytheas.hu/ereszletes14htm>
> >
>
http://www.aeiou.at/aeiou.encyclop.s/s051114.htm<http://www.aeiou.at/aeiou.encyclop.s/s051114.htm>
> >
>
http://www.mek.iif.hu/porta/szint/tarsad/konyvtar/tortenet/borsa/html/bgkvti_2/bgki0262de.htm<http://www.mek.iif.hu/porta/szint/tarsad/konyvtar/tortenet/borsa/html/bgkvti_2/bgki0262de.htm>
> > 
> > Richard Strein:
> >
>
http://bryn.webz.cz/rudolf_text.html<http://bryn.webz.cz/rudolf_text.html>
> > 
> > Jacopo Strada:
> >
>
http://kmoddl.library.cornell.edu/biographies/Strada/index.php<http://kmoddl.library.cornell.edu/biographies/Strada/index.php>
> >
>
http://www.artnet.com/library/08/0816/T081696.asp<http://www.artnet.com/library/08/0816/T081696.asp>
> >
>
http://www.glar.gl/strada.htm<http://www.glar.gl/strada.htm>
> >
>
http://www.wga.hu/frames-e.html?/html/t/tiziano/2portrai/strada.html<http://www.wga.hu/frames-e.html?/html/t/tiziano/2portrai/strada.html>
> >
>
http://www.h-net.msu.edu/reviews/showrev.cgi?path=22146919960248<http://www.h-net.msu.edu/reviews/showrev.cgi?path=22146919960248>
> > 
> > Ottavio Strada: (Jacopo's son)
> >
>
http://www.artnet.com/library/08/0817/T081703.asp<http://www.artnet.com/library/08/0817/T081703.asp>
> > 
> > Katerina Stradova: (Jacopo's daughter)
> >
>
http://www.gymck.cz/~legendy/donjulius.html<http://www.gymck.cz/~legendy/donjulius.html>
> > 
> > Dana
> > 
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> >   From: Rene
> > Zandbergen<mailto:r_zandbergen@xxxxxxxxx> 
> >   To:
> > vms-list@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:vms-list@xxxxxxxxxxx> 
> >   Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 12:19 AM
> >   Subject: Re: VMs: Hi from another newbie
> > 
> > 
> >   Dear all,
> > 
> >   in response to the following conversation:
> > 
> >   >>> what's wrong with the dee-kelly hypothesis?
> > 
> >   >> The fact that the only evidence available is
> >   >> circumstantial at best.
> > 
> >   > IMHO that does not justify a strong sentence
> > like
> >   > "we don't believe that  Dee and Kelly had
> > anything
> >   > to do with it either", especially since there 
> >   > are not better hypotesis available (AFAIK)
> > 
> >   There is no positive evidence that Dee and/or
> >   Kelly sold the VMs to Rudolf.
> >   There are literally hundreds of people who sold
> >   items to Rudolf, who was a veritable collector
> of
> >   art and artefacts.
> >   There are many people known to have
> >   sold books to Rudolf. 
> > 
> >   Wilfrid Voynich wrote in his 1922 article that
> he
> >   had studied this part of history, and identified
> > John
> >   Dee as the most likely candidate, because he was
> >   most likely to sell a book of R.Bacon to Rudolf.
> > 
> >   Since this selection criterium has been
> > discredited,
> >   Dee is no longer the most likely candidate!
> > 
> >   Because of Voynich's statement, the lives of Dee
> >   and Kelly have been scrutinised in order to find
> >   more potential evidence. Nothing firm has been
> >   found, but lots of circumstantial stuff.
> > 
> >   Had other people been scrutinsed as much in
> >   this direction, I am fully convinced that equal
> >   amounts
> >   of circumstantial would have been found. This
> >   is pure speculation, but I think it is justified
> -
> > we
> >   see as much in this list, where supporting
> > evidence
> >   for any and every theory can be collected
> easily.
> > 
> >   Three candidates (among the many) whom I would
> >   find particularly promising in this respect
> (more
> > so
> >   than Dee or Kelly) would be:
> >   - Joannes Sambucus
> >   - Richard Strein von Schwarzenau
> >   - Jacopo Strada
> > 
> >   I doubt that the internet is a good source for
> > details
> >   about these people, but you never know....
> > 
> >   Cheers, Rene
> 
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