VMs: RE: Re: swallow-tail merlons revisited

["John Grove" <John@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

	Not only European, but as far as anyone has been able to show to date - the
swallow-tail
form dates from the 13th century onward. It is possible that there were some
from earlier dates
but we have seen NO evidence of such as yet. The triangular shaped ones
posted earlier don't even
come close in my view - but hey, it's only my opinion and I am not an expert
on antiquated castle design.

	The recent links are great examples of how the style spread through out
Europe in later years, but
doesn't necessarily aid to pointing to a different location for the VMS
because the time lines aren't so
clear for us.

	John.

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to meet these merlons, I would like to begin with another point

Probably most people here agree, these plants look like one man is telling,
what
to draw and another man is drawing, okeey?

So, is the "division of 9" made up in the same way? If so, at least the
illuminator of this book is probably of European origin. You see, his
understanding of a castle is typically European.


some speculations, too:

I.
could this book be created in 3 etappes
1) drawing a pic on a page
2) writing the text on this page (is it the same man?)
3) adding, in a very robust manner, some color (?reason: a manuscript in
color
is more expensive?)

II.
to get some point in the pics, we have to look at these "in perspective", we
have to keep in sight this process.
Par example, when guessing about the plants, it isn't a very good idea to
dig
through big, modern foliants. You just have to guess, what the first man is
telling to another (the illuminator). Maybe some people here remember, I
told
once - I have some opinions about some of these Doctorman's plants (and this
is
how I created these ideas - which could be wrong of course). But these
opinions
walk around in the hills of Central Asia ... the Southern Himalaya and
probably
the mountains of Indochine could "do", too, but this could be the southern
limit
already... (telling this just to meet the observation of similarity with the
Chakma language).

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