RE: VMs: Reasearching the VMs at Beinecke

[jean-yves artero <jyartero@xxxxxxxx>]

Hello Dana,

Many thanks for the renewed explanations; in fact, I
was trying to write "missing development or picture"
and I typed it wrong.

Your are right to say that there is more investigative
work to pursue, but your achieved results are already
very important, as I see it.

Regards,

Jean 

--- DANA SCOTT <dscott520@xxxxxxx> a écrit :

> Hello Jean,
> 
> Well, I am not quite sure I follow you.  Missing
> folios were either removed 
> as a set by complete vellum copies or they were
> removed by half of the 
> vellum being cut out (as for example was done with
> folio 12, which really 
> irks me).  The cut out vellum once exited with the
> current binding and for 
> whatever reason was removed.  Whether or not full
> vellum inserts once 
> existed and have since been removed is unknown to
> me, except for the skips 
> in the numbering scheme, which may be somewhat
> suspect.  If there is proof 
> of actual missing text (prior transcriptions or
> bleed across), then sure I 
> would suspect that they once existed.  So, I would
> keep pursuing what 
> investigative work I can.  As far as the logic of
> the layout is concerned, I 
> am uneasy with the current binding of the
> manuscript.  This may be because 
> major sections were grouped seperately and developed
> by separate scribes for 
> varying reasons.  And also there is the question of
> missing folios, which is 
> certainly very possible, given the number of times
> the manuscript has been 
> rebound and vandalized.
> 
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Dana
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >From: jean-yves artero <jyartero@xxxxxxxx>
> >Reply-To: vms-list@xxxxxxxxxxx
> >To: vms-list@xxxxxxxxxxx
> >Subject: RE: VMs: Reasearching the VMs at Beinecke
> >Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2005 21:15:57 +0200 (CEST)
> >
> >Hi Dana,
> >
> >Many thanks for this; it's a sort of scoop since
> many
> >studies mentionned missing pages till now.
> >
> >My understanding is that the numbering matter
> apart,
> >you did not find any evidence of missing
> development
> >of picture, am I wrong or not?
> >
> >Regards,
> >
> >Jean Artero
> >
> >--- DANA SCOTT <dscott520@xxxxxxx> a écrit :
> >
> > > Hi Jean,
> > >
> > > A quick answer to the missing 12 pages, for
> example,
> > > is that they might not
> > > be missing at all since they may never have
> existed
> > > to begin with.  Sure, if
> > > we go by the numbers then one could say that
> they
> > > must be missing.  But the
> > > current folios 58v and 65r are on the same piece
> of
> > > vellum and perhaps there
> > > never were any additional folios inserted
> between.
> > > Two reasons why this
> > > came to mind are that the number 66 at the top
> of
> > > the rightmost folio which
> > > follows the missing set might actually be a
> forged
> > > 55 (it kind of looks like
> > > the 6 may actually have been penned originally
> as a
> > > 5 and turned into a 6
> > > with an added stroke).  The second thought is
> that I
> > > saw no evidence of
> > > there having been any insertions added between
> > > folios 58v and 65r.  Who
> > > knows?  I will keep looking for evidence of
> these
> > > missing folios.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Dana Scott
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: jean-yves artero <jyartero@xxxxxxxx>
> > > >Reply-To: vms-list@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >To: vms-list@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >Subject: RE: VMs: Reasearching the VMs at
> Beinecke
> > > >Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2005 20:45:45 +0200 (CEST)
> > > >
> > > >Hi Dana
> > > >
> > > >Thanks for the kind proposal.
> > > >
> > > >Perhaps an idea would be to get an impression
> about
> > > >the missing pages; it is easier I think when
> you
> > > have
> > > >a paper version in front of you; one question
> for
> > > >instance could be: is there any logic in the
> > > missings
> > > >and if yes what is this logic, as you see it?
> > > >
> > > >Of course a bigger one and more difficult but
> once
> > > >again better to ask oneself in the library is :
> > > what
> > > >is your overall impression about the logic of
> VMS
> > > as
> > > >it is now...
> > > >
> > > >Jean
> > > >
> > > >--- DANA SCOTT <dscott520@xxxxxxx> a écrit :
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hello All,
> > > > >
> > > > > I am currently researching the VMs and
> > > accompanying
> > > > > documents at the
> > > > > Beinecke Library.  It is a wonderful
> experience
> > > to
> > > > > be able to examine the
> > > > > original incunabula.  If anyone has a
> burning
> > > need
> > > > > for me to examine a
> > > > > particular item, please do not hesitate to
> ask.
> > > I
> > > > > will be here next week as
> > > > > well.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Kind Regards,
> > > > > Dana Scott
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> >
>
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