Re: Sagittarius and crossbow

[Dennis <ixohoxi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

"Rafal T. Prinke" wrote:
> 
> As it seems to be so rare, finding a similar image
> might perhaps restrict the dating and/or area
> where VMS was created.

	Yes! I've seen several items which could help us
to nail down the area where the VMs author(s) might have 
been, to wit: 

	- Sagittarius and crossbow;
	- Rene notes that the Ms with the nymph-like diagram in 
	   Vat.Gr. 1291 was owned in the 15th Century 
	   by two bishops of Brescia;
	- Toresella notes Ms's of "alchemical herbals" 
           in Bergamo, Bologna, Firenze (Florence),
	   Genova (Genoa), Lucca, Napoli (Naples), 
           Padova, Roma, and Venezia (Venice). It's mostly northern
	   Italy, at the time of the Renaissance, which
	   helps some.  
	- The exact date when the humanist hand was first used in this 
           area.
	- Details on when and where the hairdoes like those of 
          VMs nymphs were in fashion.  

	A lot of these are weak and I'd like to see
further examples.  However, I think that the info we have
pretty well gives the date as the 15th century.