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Re: VMs: The Star Chart on f68r3
At 05:41 PM 12/26/2002 +0000, you wrote:
From the looks of things the information was found, collected, and saved
as the VMS.
This leaves the "plant and nymph" pictures. What do they have to do with
a destruction on earth? Evidentially, nothing. How much time is wasted on
them? They seem to do exactly what they were intended to do. Divert
attention from the text.
FWIW, from all the art history analysis of the VMS I've done, there's a
pretty good chance that I can now account for the plant and nymph
sections: the zodiac section I'm kind of 50-50 about,
I wish we had the VMS Aquarius page. The work I have done on the Zodiac
shows it to be an ancient memory device connected to the destruction. Le
Serpent Rouge zodiacal information, as it sits, is a cute historical
overview. The "added" 13th zodiacal sign is placed directly between Scorpio
and Sagittarius. This happens to be the direction the destruction is
On the VMS Pisces page, the one word in the very center I had translated
some time ago. It says exactly what I would have expected to see: Moving
towards the time / season from on high. Aquarius is the time. Pisces was
but the cosmological part (that interests you most) seems (to my eyes, at
least) to have come from a separate (and currently unknown) source entirely.
Ahh..ok. THIS approach would make a lot of sense.
There is a picture I see in history. After the 5200 BC event, when
everything changed "doctrinally," there was a group that became more
"hidden" than any group I have ever heard of. They were the original
keepers of the destruction information. I have NO idea who they are. I call
them the Elders for lack of a better term. It was these people who, despite
the new religious oppression, continued to keep the original doctrinal
information concerning the destruction in its original form. It was this
group that left only their fingerprint in history. They were responsible
for the change in the story of Sumerian King Ziusudra, from a local flood
event, to a world-wide flood with a divine intervention / salvation
scenario. They last popped up during the formation of early Christian
doctrine. Their insert was the future destruction information, with again,
a divine intervention salvation scenario mixed with Jewish immanent
apocalyptic beliefs. After this...they disappeared. If what I see in the
Graal core material is right, their information is now in the hands of
Also: though the 9-rosette map page seems to tie in to the same time and
place as the herbals and the bath sections, I can't currently assert that
it is from the same source as them.
From all this, I infer that the content of the VMS is a heterogenous
group of manuscripts, which was encoded by its owner.
This would make the encoding related not to the *content* but to the
*owner*. By identifying the owner, then, we should improve our chances of
working out the code.
Unless it is a wild card player. Some unknown third party "hired" to encode it?
I like your idea. There seems to be just TOO MUCH information here for it
all to all relate to the destruction.
In addition, I'm fascinated by Robert's suggestions about f68r3, most
specifically about the difference between six-point stars (fake stars,
background) and seven-point stars (real stars, foreground). By itself,
this observation (if verifiable) points to the diagrams in the VMS as
containing *diagrammatic information*.
I read somewhere the 7 pointed star was always interpreted as referring to
I like the date Robert came up with. There were 3 MINOR hits around that
time. One double and one single. The single hit seems closest to the figure
Robert gave. On top of everything else, if the event was strong enough, the
galactic core would have been visible from earth as a large star.
BTW, Robert, if you are reading this, would you please go to this page and
tell me what you think. This is just a "non-web" page I use to access
things when I am away from home. It has to do with the constellation of
Orion and the placing of the seven wonders of the world. I do not do
astronomy. It was just something I saw one day. The larger pic is on top
with a smaller version under it. The rest of the page has nothing to do
with that. Just other things I had been pondering.
This isn't a trivial point - everyone here has examined the diagrams and
"seen" patterns, but proving that the modes of representation in there
(ie, number of points on a star, colour of a star, etc) are actually being
used to carry meaningful information would be a very big step forward in
positing signal over noise, code rather than gull. :-)
Cheers, .....Nick Pelling.....
PS: a further possibility is that, on other diagrams (such as f67v1), the
number of points on a star could instead be representing its magnitude
(ie, a primitive measure of "foregroundness"). Going clockwise from 12
o'clock (inside outwards), the number of points on f67v1 are (from the CopyFlo)
I like to leave these things to people who know far more than I do about
them. If the historical overview I have is correct, and it seems to be,
then all pieces reconstructed by individual detailists will fit exactly
where they belong in the bigger picture. Robert mentions Pleiades. Pleiades
is destruction information that connects to the event by way of the
galactic anti-center. He has a date. There was a minor superwave hit about
then. Something is here.
It is difficult to have a rehearsed routine fit in with broken rhythm.
Rehearsed routines lack the flexibility to adapt. - - Lee Jun Fan
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