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Re: VMs: Voynechese as musical notation



Zitat von Dennis <tsalagi@xxxxxxxx>:

> 	Hi, Pam!  Haven't seen you in a while.  
> 
> 	I remember hearing of such an approach to analyzing
> data a long time ago, for chemistry data.
> ...
> Dennis

Hiyas,

I tried to follow the thread with my tiny brains, but it seems I can't fully 
grasp the concept.

Is the question whether the VM is essentially just the score for a larger 
musical piece? In that case... where's the lyrics? I mean, if all of this is 
just melody and rhythm, what are the pictures good for, and the structure of 
the book? And if there are lyrics embedded within the sheet music... why would 
an author go such a complicated way, and not just use a seperate encyrption 
scheme for the words?

Or is the question whether an assignment of VM-symbols to modern notes would 
result in anything but noise? If that's the point... I'd guess you can always 
find something, given the fact that there _is_ structure and rules in the VM, 
given the fact that sound having structure and following rules approaches 
music, and given that you can arbitrarily transform the VM-symbols to notes, 
there is certainly a way to turn the VM into a symphony, but the same holds for 
the NY phone book, and I'd have great trouble in interpreting the results. I 
mean, if you found a particular harmony... what would it signify?

For a different approach to combine music and language, see also the wonderful 
idea of "Solresol", and artifical language of the late 19th century, which 
unfortunately never really got off the ground.

http://www.ptialaska.net/~srice/solresol/sorsoeng.htm

The "General concepts" and "Different kinds of writing/communicating" (towards 
the end) should give you a general idea.

But I assume the abstract view on language exhibited by Solresol is somewhat 
beyond a renaissance courtier...

Cheers,

   Elmar (C flat)



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