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Re: VMs: Dating the VM: Preliminary results



--- elvogt@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:

> Some time ago I embarked on a mission to date the VM
> based on the clothing and 
> apparel of several of the characters depicted
> therein. Last night I finally was 
> smart enough to call upon help from a friend of mine
> who is way more 
> knowledgeable in medieval costume history than
> myself. 

 [...]

> My friend (not previously acquainted with the VM)
> could readily identify most 
> of the dresses 

 [...]

> Most of the evidence seems to point to 1420-1460,
> the Lower Rhine area, ie the 
> border region between Germany, France, and the
> Netherlands.
> 
> I know, that's not very spectacular 

Well, it is quite interesting. At least the time
frame is again quite close to what others
have said.

As to the geographic area, I have never seen any
building in the lower Rhine area which has 
'ghibbelline' crennelations, like the castle on
f.86.

To me, a picture of the VMs author emerges of a
guy, who has travelled around Europe or at least
has seen a lot, knows what 'scientific' books
look like, has an original mind, can write very
well but cannot draw quite like an artist.

A question though, related to the 'Rorschach' 
effect. The specialty of your friend is not, by
any chance, specifically medieval clothing in
the lower Rhine area?

Cheers, Rene

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