VMs: Re: Re: Voynich manuscript - Manchu solution claim by Z Banasik

["Jeff" <jeff@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Well done Barbara! A sane post at last. Not biased, not slanted, just open
minded.

Jeff

----- Original Message -----
From: "Barbara Barrett" <barbarabarrett@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <vms-list@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: 07 May 2004 11:12
Subject: VMs: Re: Voynich manuscript - Manchu solution claim by Z Banasik


> Barbara Babbles;
>
> I'm not able to see a relationship to the VMS with any of the past or
> present manchu/mongolian alphabets - however I concede that an invented
> script for manchu following manchu orthographic patterns would give
> cryptographers headaches because Manchu letters can have not only initial,
> medial, and final forms but also a letter can have any of 4 phonemic
values
> depending upon flanking letters and the gender of the word (or more
> accurately: vowel harmony).
>
> If one were to invent a single character and then say it is the initial
form
> of (1) the medical form of (2) and the final form of (3) and it's phonemic
> value like standard Manchu depended upon flanking letters and word
> gender/vowel harmony. Make this valid for printed letters (as opposed to
> connected ones as in Manchu/Mongolian) and you'd have a fairly
impenetrable
> script!
>
> The Hoards left colonies all over western Europe, so knowledge of the
Mongol
> script and Language could have been preserved in, for example, Mediaeval
> France, then the knowledge learned and applied by a European.
>
> So I don't find the notion that the VMS script/language is related to
manchu
> an impossible idea, and there's nothing in the VMS that excludes this
> possibility.
>
> Therefore the questions are;
> 1) How did Zbigniew Banasik make the connection.
> 2) Can others reproduce his results.
> 3) does it work for all of the MS, without gaps or sections of
gobbledygook.
>
> I look forward to hearing more.
>
> Barbara
>
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