Re: VMs: A cryptological assault on Strong's decryption...

["john stojko" <oko@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi Rene!



How much prove you wont I do not know but please consider the following.

  1.. I published VMs alphabet with equivalent English and Ukrainian
(Cyrillic) alphabets.
  2.. I stated the language in which VMs is written.
  3.. In my Home Page I give 5 steps that can be used to read VMs. I do not
use the steps any more but in the beginning they were handy.
  4.. To the best of my ability I tried to show how the letters known as
"execution tools-gallows" was constructed.
  5.. I believe that knowledge of Ukrainian language and memorizing the VMs
alphabet (see alphabet in my Home Page) one can read and understand the
whole VMs.
  6.. I stated before and I will do it again. I do not encourage any one to
believe me. But, I wont you to check my solution and method and prove or
disprove my claim. But, so far you disprove is based on your believe rather
than facts.
John



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rene Zandbergen" <r_zandbergen@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <vms-list@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2004 6:31 PM
Subject: Re: VMs: A cryptological assault on Strong's decryption...


>
> --- Nick Pelling <nickpelling@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > I've chatted with GC, and it seems I got Strong
> > completely wrong. *sigh* :-(
> >
> > I'll try and understand better how it is supposed to
> > work & will post again
> > in a few days' time... wish me luck! :-o
>
> Hi Nick,
>
> I propose that we go down to the basics:
>
> 1) We have proposed solutions by Newbold, Child,
>    Feely, Strong, Levitov and Stojko.
>    We also have a non-solution from Gordon Rugg.
>    At best, one of them can be right.
>
> 2) I am rather convinced that you don't believe
>    that any of the above solutions is right. I
>    certainly hold this same opinion.
>
> 3) If someone wants us to believe a particular
>    solution, they'd better *convince* us. If the
>    majority of the Voynich community does not
>    believe any particular solution, and wishes
>    to pursue further analysis, it is the clearest
>    possible sign that point (2) above also applies
>    for all those who know anything about
>    the Voynich MS.
>
> So why should anyone want to disprove the Strong
> solution in particular? There's no need. It
> is not any more credible than the other ones
> listed above. The burden is on the one who wishes
> to have us believe in it.
>
> Cheers, Rene
>
>
>
>
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