Re: VMs: A cryptological assault on Strong's decryption...

["john stojko" <oko@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Rene,


You do not have to know old Ukrainian. I use Ukrainian - English dictionary
by M. L. Pdvesko. You can find all the words used in VMs.

All the languages that use alphabet consisting of consonants only have the
same problems. Hence it is true with VMs. The language dictates vowels to
use to form meaningful words and phrases or sentences.



For 2,000 years the Bible has been translated and continued to be
translated. Every time some one finds mistake or find way to get different
meaning. Which translation will give "valid original text"?



In my book and on the internet I give practical solution how to read VMs and
not theory.

I did not wrote the VMs. How can I answer why the author or scribe did not
follow Zipf law.



The text is not encrypted but written with alphabet used at that time.



The text explains the pictures. The letters has been written to people that
pretended to be God's. Hence the pictures look like not of this world but
probably from place where God's are living.

(I consider that the pictures were drawn to intimidate them.)



John


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rene Zandbergen" <r_zandbergen@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <vms-list@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 5:41 AM
Subject: Re: VMs: A cryptological assault on Strong's decryption...


> Hello John,
>
> > How much prove you wont I do not know but please
> > consider the following.
> >
> >   1.. I published VMs alphabet with equivalent
> > English and Ukrainian
> > (Cyrillic) alphabets.
> >   2.. I stated the language in which VMs is written.
> >   3.. In my Home Page I give 5 steps that can be
> > used to read VMs. I do not
> > use the steps any more but in the beginning they
> > were handy.
> >   4.. To the best of my ability I tried to show how
> > the letters known as
> > "execution tools-gallows" was constructed.
>
> You have certainly explained your method in your
> book, so this 'criterium' for a successful
> solution is fulfilled.
> I don't know old Ukrainian, so I cannot judge
> if your plaintext is sensible. The problem is,
> however, that we cannot be sure whether you are
> really reconstructing a valid original text,
> or you can obtain text because there is always
> enough freedom in selecting vowels.
>
> >   6.. I stated before and I will do it again. I do
> > not encourage any one to
> > believe me. But, I wont you to check my solution and
> > method and prove or
> > disprove my claim. But, so far you disprove is based
> > on your believe rather
> > than facts.
>
> Whether the evidence is more 'belief' or 'proof' I
> don't know. Perhaps it is so, but this is what
> makes me skeptical:
>
> - there is no explanation in your theory why the
>   Voynich MS words follow the patterns explained
>   by Jorge Stolfi (or even Currier's observations)
> - the label words, which do not follow Zipf
>   law like the main text, are still used to make
>   sentences
>
> The first point above could be checked if any
> other plaintext from that time period were
> available.
> The next two points are a bit more 'subjective'.
>
> - the text you generate does not seem particuarly
>   meaningful or important enough for such encryption
> - the strange drawings, which should have taken
>   a bit effort to make, are not at all explained.
>
> Best wishes,
>            Rene
>
>
>
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