Re: Criteria, was Re: VMs: A cryptological assault ...

["john stojko" <oko@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi Elmar!



I wonder where are you getting "Eye of my God" and translation "oko I bisi
je"?

The condensed Voynich "KBSJ" if I did the translation would be as follows.

KBSJ = Oko bose je. Which means, Oko barefooted is or more idiomatic Oko is
barefooted.

Why would you encode text written by alphabet used at that time?



"The plain text.."

If you wont to reconstruct translated text to VMs you mast keep tract of the
single and double spaces in original VMs text.

Than remove the vowels in the translated text you will have original VMs
text.



John


----- Original Message ----- 
From: <elvogt@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 7:56 AM
Subject: Criteria, was Re: VMs: A cryptological assault ...


> Zitat von Rene Zandbergen <r_zandbergen@xxxxxxxxx>:
>
> > > ...
> > I don't know old Ukrainian, so I cannot judge
> > if your plaintext is sensible. The problem is,
> > however, that we cannot be sure whether you are
> > really reconstructing a valid original text,
> > or you can obtain text because there is always
> > enough freedom in selecting vowels.
> >
>
> I checked out John's site, and if I understand correctly, then the
> sequence "Eye of my God" is translated to "oko i bosi je", which in return
> becomes condensed in the Voynich to "KBSJ", ie a mere four letters with
not
> even word boundaries surviving intact. How one would want to unambiguously
> reconstruct plaintext from this is beyond me...
>
> I wouldn't subscribe to John's method either, exactly because it
introduces an
> encoding "bottleneck", which leaves you enough degrees of freedom to
always
> reconstruct a legitimate text, even if the original plaintext was only
garbage.
>
> Perhaps we should introduce another criterion for a successful solution:
>
> "*) The plaintext reconstruction must be reasonably unambiguous"?
>
> Cheers,
>
>    Elmar
>
>
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