Re: Re: Re: VMs: A very important discovery!!

["jan" <hurychj@xxxxxxxxx>]

Hello Steve, 

do we have  some statistics of the number of characters between two gallows (any kind of gallows)? I 
do not mean where in particular word is they are located;  I pressume that the gallows were inserted 
after certain  no. of characters (the numbers being variable but not random.   It would probably need 
some  tricky program (we have 4 gallows types).

Personally, I do not see  any particular reason to switch between 4 ( OK, maybe only two tables or 
grills) so often. But, the idea about beginning and end rings the bell, yes -  the one legged and two 
legged  gallows, were carefully drawn, especially the one crossing the first leg backwards! Or could 
they mean  the real pauses between words? No, the words would be sometimes too long, very long. 
And we woudl not  need four types od them . . .

Jan 
  
  
=======  You wrote:  
>hi all :-)
>
>On 29 Sep 2004 08:47:52 +0200
> From: elvogt@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Elmar wrote:
> 
> 
> > On Tue, 28 Sep 2004, jan wrote:
> > > There are the sections in the VM, where the SAME gallows follow each
> > > other - in the same paragraph and with the other characters in between
> > > but without different gallows in between. What would be the need for
> > > that (one gallows would normally do)?
> > 
> 
> Perhaps the gallows are a relative indicator, rather than an absolute one?
> 
> "f" -> switch to next table, "t" -> switch to previous table, etc.
> 
> That'd readily explain two identical gallows following each other, and it would 
> point to an amount of five Ridderstad tables.
> 
>    Elmar
> 
> 
> -------------------------------------------------
>for those seeking numeric's with the vms,
>
>A "fair?" respresentation of SAME gallows following each other might 
>be 1st line of f45r. here the line ends with 3 SAME gallows. 
>
>unique to this page is it also STARTS with the SAME gallows.
>(FWIW: this 1st gallows is NOT the same 'pointer_to_char' as the last 
>3 SAME gallows, as the 3rd gallows in this 1st line has already 
>flipped/rotated the table/key). 
>
>in the FOLDing scheme of things,
>
> i would highly suspect that these 
>last 3,4 SAME gallows are within a NUMBERS (as opposed to alphebetic) 
>area/TABLE at this point of decoding.
>
>while my previous a.b.c-1.2.3 #### posting had 'everybody in order', 
>it may well be that
>
>123
>456
>789 
>
>follows the same FOLDing scheme as its gallows counterpart to 
>
>312
>498
>657 
>
>sorry i don't know for sure, BUT it is interesting the the 4 is static 
>in both this positions AND that is the SAME as the gallow_char.
>
>-=se=-
>steve (#'s 4 in there somewhere?) ekwall
>
>
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Regards,		
jan



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