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Re: VMs: fake letters
At 21:19 14/07/2005 -0500, Knox Mix wrote:
I was convinced the first time around. The possibility remains that, aside
from abbreviated endings, some letters were intentionally omitted because
they were not essential to reading the script.
It's certainly possible: though the VMs' small working alphabet (whether
fake or not :-) ) makes it less likely that nulls are present there. For
example, a good number of the more complex Tranchedino ciphers have upwards
of 100 symbols - plenty of room for nulls there.
>the micro-structure of the order of the underlying text
seems >consistent with a yet-to-be determined rule-based grammar of
sorts, >whether further enciphered or not. Essentially, there seems to
be >structure beneath the (fake alphabet) surface...
I understand "underlying text" as referring to a grammatical text from
which the script was derived. If that is right I am not sure I understand
the statement. If the overall thought here is that the VMS hints at being
so derived, I cannot disagree with what I have read in support of that.
Anything you can add would be helpful.
The underlying text may be a real language, or a shorthand, or a (probably
pre-Trithemius) cipher, or a code, or some combination of them: all of
which are "languages" in the loosest sense. :-)
[Do you] have some feeling of the relationship of the quires to each
other? I am not prepared to say why but this is my sense of it. The
letters to the left represent ordinary texts in English that are
"different" from one another on a scale of a-z. Very roughly. And assuming
most texts would be in the range of F-R. From <V> in that group to Quires
15, 17, & 19 is a good stretch. Quire 13 is the most "different". Quires 5
& 6 are as much "like" the preceding quires as they are to other
"B-dialect" quires. All variable depending on what aspect is considered.
Overall, though, it has the "feel" of influence by writer and subject
matter. What do you think? Anyone?
FWIW, I don't think that the contents of the Herbal quires are bound in the
same way as they were when they were created. Which would somewhat muddy
the waters here. :-o
Cheers, .....Nick Pelling.....
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