Re: VMs: New VMS pdf

["GC" <gc-@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Printing out the images for a good representation gets a bit tricky, and the
sids themselves cannot be easily handled by widely used programs.  The sids
also contain a lot more information than any standard printer can handle.

The shop over here thinks they have one laser than can do a true 4800 dpi,
but their others are all 1200 dpi.  Providing more information to their
printer than necessary relies on printer driven interpolation, and I'd
rather set this up myself so all pages are done exactly the same.  The jpeg
files can be resized and still maintain 600 dpi resolution, perfect for just
about all inkjets, but not as high as I would like for a laser, so I'm
resizing the tiffs and setting their dpi information at 1200 before having
them printed so the printer prints 1 to 1.  Their size is reduced
drastically when this operation is performed.  I'm going to try to resize a
tiff for their 4800 dpi laser for comparison, but I don't think I'll be able
to tell any significant difference with the eye - maybe I'll be surprised.
Every operation with a tiff takes 5 minutes on my computer. :-(

You can't just choose an overall size and resize the images either.  There
is extraneous space in the photographs on all sides.  I'm having to trim at
least the left and right edges and use the coordinate/ruler function to get
matching recto/verso images.  I use the center of the binding line for
reference, and choose a point on the edge of the page that can be measured
from both sides to make them match.  Then one image has to be printed left
justified, and the other right justified so the binding line matches up on
both sides of the print.  That way, the outer edges of the folio can be
trimmed later with an x-acto knife to conform with the odd shape of the
page, and they'll closely match up.  One inch margins on either side leave
enough gutter for binding.

None of this can be done precisely because the pages are not laying exactly
flat in the photos, but it can be done closely to the original.  This is
probably a lot more trouble than most people are willing to go to, but
something to consider if you're looking to make a printable facsimile of
your own, or simply looking to include only the information that can be
properly handled by a standard printer.

GC


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ken W" <ken@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <vms-list@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, June 18, 2004 9:43 PM
Subject: Re: VMs: New VMS pdf


> Nick Pelling wrote:
>
> > Going for the full MrSID resolution for this might be a scary download
> > for most people: we're getting 60MB TIFFs per page from the decode
> > utility, so even my favourite quire 9 (balneo, 5 bifolios, no
> > fold-outs) could easily end up being 5 x 4 x 60 = 1200MB.
>
> Since there is no optimum version possible - every plus has a negative -
> I was thinking of using a mid to high decompression of the original
> MrSIDs for the pdf.  Using the Photoshop plug, in I found that there is
> acceptable information loss at the 4:1 decompression.  This leaves each
> page at about 4MB.  With additional info I do believe I can cram it all
> on two CDs.
>
> I can also create a CD with the compressed MrSIDs  and a viewer which
> would make full resolution images available.
> My intention is to make CDs as I did before and do the same "chain mail"
> distribution.  I agree downloads WOULD be too massive.
>
> > FWIW, to illustrate the how-to-fold-quire-9 discussion, I was thinking
> > of using rather less hi-res images, and placing them 2-up within a
> > PDF, so that people could print them out double-sided on A4 sheets
> > (folded down the middle):-
> >         page 1:   | f75r | f84v |
> >         page 2:   | f75v | f84r |
> >         page 3:   | f76r | f83v |
> >         page 4:   | f76v | f83r |
> >         etc
>
> Then you'd lose the scale.  What I did for my version is to print out
> the recto sides of the foldouts, flip the papers, print the versos, then
> cut and taped the parts together. It's not elegant, but it is cheap and
> effective.
>
> >> -  Recreation of the foldouts which could also be printed or viewed
> >> as they exist.
> >
> > Not so trivial for most of us with low-end A4 colour printers. :-(
>
> See above
>
> >> -  It may not be the most scientific approach but I do believe with
> >> the features on Acrobat 6 and some simple programming, it is possible
> >> to do OCR compiling from the pdf.  One possible use of this could be
> >> to create a font breakdown (i.e., stroke based or an alternate letter
> >> definition) and run an analysis on the text.  If there is any use for
> >> this, let me know.
> >
> > Contrary to what you might think, our transcriptions aren't ~quite~
> > that robust. :-o
>
> Maybe I'll look into this more...
>
> Ken Walczak
> 801 Design
>
>
>
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