Re: VMs: Hi from another newbie

[jean-yves artero <jyartero@xxxxxxxx>]

Hi 

http://alfama.sim.ucm.es/dioscorides/consulta_libro.asp?ref=X531772070

AUTHOR Sambucus, Johannes
TITLE Icones veterum aliquot, ac recentium medicorum,
philosophorumque, elogiolis suis editae
URL
http://alfama.sim.ucm.es/dioscorides/consulta_libro.asp?ref=X531772070
SITE Biblioteca Universidad Complutense
SUBJECT Iconography
NOTES Dpr of the 1574 Antwerp edition

In these "icones" are included a portrait of Mattioli
and of Sambucus as well.

Jean

--- Dana Scott <dscott520@xxxxxxx> a écrit :

> Rene,
> 
> Here are a few references to the individuals you
> mentioned below.
> 
> Johannes Sambucus:
>
http://www.pytheas.hu/ereszletes14.htm<http://www.pytheas.hu/ereszletes14htm>
>
http://www.aeiou.at/aeiou.encyclop.s/s051114.htm<http://www.aeiou.at/aeiou.encyclop.s/s051114.htm>
>
http://www.mek.iif.hu/porta/szint/tarsad/konyvtar/tortenet/borsa/html/bgkvti_2/bgki0262de.htm<http://www.mek.iif.hu/porta/szint/tarsad/konyvtar/tortenet/borsa/html/bgkvti_2/bgki0262de.htm>
> 
> Richard Strein:
>
http://bryn.webz.cz/rudolf_text.html<http://bryn.webz.cz/rudolf_text.html>
> 
> Jacopo Strada:
>
http://kmoddl.library.cornell.edu/biographies/Strada/index.php<http://kmoddl.library.cornell.edu/biographies/Strada/index.php>
>
http://www.artnet.com/library/08/0816/T081696.asp<http://www.artnet.com/library/08/0816/T081696.asp>
>
http://www.glar.gl/strada.htm<http://www.glar.gl/strada.htm>
>
http://www.wga.hu/frames-e.html?/html/t/tiziano/2portrai/strada.html<http://www.wga.hu/frames-e.html?/html/t/tiziano/2portrai/strada.html>
>
http://www.h-net.msu.edu/reviews/showrev.cgi?path=22146919960248<http://www.h-net.msu.edu/reviews/showrev.cgi?path=22146919960248>
> 
> Ottavio Strada: (Jacopo's son)
>
http://www.artnet.com/library/08/0817/T081703.asp<http://www.artnet.com/library/08/0817/T081703.asp>
> 
> Katerina Stradova: (Jacopo's daughter)
>
http://www.gymck.cz/~legendy/donjulius.html<http://www.gymck.cz/~legendy/donjulius.html>
> 
> Dana
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Rene
> Zandbergen<mailto:r_zandbergen@xxxxxxxxx> 
>   To:
> vms-list@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:vms-list@xxxxxxxxxxx> 
>   Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 12:19 AM
>   Subject: Re: VMs: Hi from another newbie
> 
> 
>   Dear all,
> 
>   in response to the following conversation:
> 
>   >>> what's wrong with the dee-kelly hypothesis?
> 
>   >> The fact that the only evidence available is
>   >> circumstantial at best.
> 
>   > IMHO that does not justify a strong sentence
> like
>   > "we don't believe that  Dee and Kelly had
> anything
>   > to do with it either", especially since there 
>   > are not better hypotesis available (AFAIK)
> 
>   There is no positive evidence that Dee and/or
>   Kelly sold the VMs to Rudolf.
>   There are literally hundreds of people who sold
>   items to Rudolf, who was a veritable collector of
>   art and artefacts.
>   There are many people known to have
>   sold books to Rudolf. 
> 
>   Wilfrid Voynich wrote in his 1922 article that he
>   had studied this part of history, and identified
> John
>   Dee as the most likely candidate, because he was
>   most likely to sell a book of R.Bacon to Rudolf.
> 
>   Since this selection criterium has been
> discredited,
>   Dee is no longer the most likely candidate!
> 
>   Because of Voynich's statement, the lives of Dee
>   and Kelly have been scrutinised in order to find
>   more potential evidence. Nothing firm has been
>   found, but lots of circumstantial stuff.
> 
>   Had other people been scrutinsed as much in
>   this direction, I am fully convinced that equal
>   amounts
>   of circumstantial would have been found. This
>   is pure speculation, but I think it is justified -
> we
>   see as much in this list, where supporting
> evidence
>   for any and every theory can be collected easily.
> 
>   Three candidates (among the many) whom I would
>   find particularly promising in this respect (more
> so
>   than Dee or Kelly) would be:
>   - Joannes Sambucus
>   - Richard Strein von Schwarzenau
>   - Jacopo Strada
> 
>   I doubt that the internet is a good source for
> details
>   about these people, but you never know....
> 
>   Cheers, Rene


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