Re: VMs: Hi from another newbie

[Dennis <tsalagi@xxxxxxxx>]

Paul Ingerson wrote:

> > > And where can I download the EVA font?
> >
> > http://www.geocities.com/ctesibos/francais/voynich/outils.htm
> > "La Police Voynich"
>
> Thanks,Dennis.  (If only I'd thought of doing a Google search in French!)

	Yes.  I'm going to do a Voynich tools page in English 
shortly, since the site where they were previously keeps 
being taken down.

> > A few of the biological
> > pages do look like internal organs but the rest of them
> > don't.  We really don't know what we are looking at.  In a
> > lot of the drawings it could just be water.
>
> Yeah.  Actually a lot of them just look like the large doodles I
> always end up doing in any spare space on any paper I've writen on! 
> But that's probably not what you want to hear...

	That's fine with me!  :-)

> > > So... How many of the usual suspects for writing the manuscript
> > > (Bacon, Dee, Kelley, etc.) were colour-blind?
> >
> >        No one in a long time has believed that Bacon had anything
> > to do with the VMs.  And now we don't believe that Dee and
> > Kelly had anything to do with it either.
>
>
> Yes, I agree they probably didn't write it.  And this idea might offer
> definite proof that they didn't have anything to do with it.  e.g. If
> Bacon's writings on optics contain a detailed description of the
> spectrum proving he wasn't colour-blind, then we'd _finally_ have
> definite, undeniable proof that it couldn't've been him, instead of
> just relying on our gut instincts that is was probably someone else..

	D'Imperio didn't think Bacon would have done it.  She read 
a lot of Bacon and said that, despite his subsequent 
reputation, he was a straightforward person who would not 
have done some so secretive.  (His lack of tact did get him 
in trouble, as I recall!)  She wrote when the Bacon idea was 
much more present, and considered her opinion very carefully.

	Also, the majority of opinions on the style of the VMs 
script date it later than him.

> The drawback is that this idea can't work the other way round, to
> prove that some other unknown author wrote the VMS, since we can never
> know if an unknown author was colour-blind or not.  But we can at
> least try to eliminate all the usual suspects, and once you've
> eliminated the impossible, then whatever remins...

	The point is well taken.  I don't think anyone had thought 
of the color-blind question before.  Bacon did do actual 
experimentation on optics, so surely one could answer this 
for him.

	But, as Nick noted, the VMs author may not have done the 
coloration.

> You see, I may be new to Voynichology, but I was _trying_ to think my
> idea through before posting.  At least give me that much credit. 

	I wasn't trying to be snide.  It just seems to me that the 
old ideas that are still present as folklore really have 
been discredited.  I didn't want you, or any newcomer, to 
have to waste time with them.

>  Of
> course, it really all depends on knowing how accurate the colours are
> in all the other pictures.  And since most VMS pages online seem to be
> B&W, that does put a big nasty problem in the way.  Oh well...

	By all means, retrieve the images from the Beinecke as I 
told you!  They are in excellent color and very high 
quality.  It's much like examining the VMs under a 
magnifying glass.

Dennis

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